SCoPE: Seminars: Instructional Designers Network

I just discovered another issue with the new SCoPE; I can't cut and paste from a previous message when I want to reply to a specific section. sad

I chose the design group I did because the one with a membership of two said they were for online designers and many designers work in print, online, televised, training and classroom design.

I'm not sure I totally understand the issue about different units. thoughtful

In Ning , the instructor can set up discussions on specific units ahead of time. Students can write blogs on a specific topic and chose to share the blog with friends or with the entire community as an assignment. The instructor can set up assigned groups and forums (or have students volunteer); then re-form the groups for different assignments. Only members of the group can see these postings, although there is no way to stop someone joining a group, I'm not sure this would be an issue in a class. (Group, forum and discussion are different types of tools for those not familiar with Ning.)

I've never used Elgg. I like Ning for groups because it is more community-focused than Facebook. Students can upload video, pictures, music and one button shares this with friends or the community as a whole. In Facebook, I have to go to each group and add my content. I find Facebook groups have less interaction than a Ning community.

Re: Instructional Designers Network

by Sylvia Currie - Saturday, 1 December 2007, 4:26 PM

Deirdre: I just discovered another issue with the new SCoPE; I can't cut and paste from a previous message when I want to reply to a specific section. sad

Sylvia: Yikes, what browser are you using?

p.s. Deirdre, the last problem you reported -- that you weren't able to upload files to SCoPE -- was because your role had changed from moderator. You had full editing access while facilitating the Active Learning seminar. But! I'm just working on turning on some of these features for everyone. Since the upgrade we have much more flexibility with assigning privileges to different roles, but getting through all these itty bitty configurations is time-consuming, and a little mind-bending! tongueout

Re: Instructional Designers Network

by Deirdre Bonnycastle - Sunday, 2 December 2007, 5:51 PM

Sylvia: Yikes, what browser are you using?

I was using FireFox. I see I don't have the same problem in Explorer. It would be nice if participants could upload images as well as facilitators.

Re: Instructional Designers Network

by Sylvia Currie - Sunday, 2 December 2007, 8:53 PM

Thanks, Deirdre. I'll check out Firefox on Windows to see if I can duplicate that copy/paste problem.

Oh, and just to clarify, anyone can upload and attach images to a forum post. It's the ability to upload and insert an image in the body of a message that goes along with facilitator access. I'll see what I can set up.

Re: Instructional Designers Network

by Emma Duke-Williams - Monday, 3 December 2007, 12:28 AM

From Re: Instructional Designers Network by scurrie on Sunday 02 December 2007 20:53:00:
Thanks, Deirdre. I'll check out Firefox on Windows to see if I can duplicate that copy/paste problem.

I've just done the above copy/paste with Flock (which is Firefox based). Is that what you meant you couldn't do? I know that I've never (either this version of Scope) or the older one, been able to do that when I'm in this screen (i.e. with the message above & me writing my comments), but I've been able to do it from the view when you can see all the messages. I guess that's because you might want to quote from "Fred" while replying to "jane". However, it does mean that if you hit "reply" to Fred's message & then want to quote him, with the appropriate citation at the top (so as to make it clear for those who read messages sorted by date, rather than threaded), you have to go back to the previous screen.

It would be really nice if you could get the citation when you copy from the message list, or in the reply mode.

From memory, to activate it in the first place, you have to click ctrl+s, or something. Can't quite remember now blush

Re: Instructional Designers Network

by Sylvia Currie - Monday, 3 December 2007, 8:18 AM

Just downloaded Flock. Thanks for the reminder, Emma! I think I checked it out awhile back then went off on a tangent and forgot all about it. It's that radar/memory thing again! tongueout

To activate smart copy open up a discussion thread (i.e. not in reply mode) then hit shift-ctrl-s This brings the context info with the clipping. The annotation tool doesn't work in reply mode either. I think it all has something to do with having to highlight text or copy from a static web page. I'm not 100% sure -- I may be confusing this why it doesn't work in wikis. (Okay, bad memory AND confused. Diagnosis anyone? clown

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I usually pop up the discussion I'm reading in a new tab or window while composing. That also helps me to get the full context instead of just the one message that appears when I click reply.

Re: Instructional Designers Network

by Emma Duke-Williams - Monday, 3 December 2007, 9:56 AM

From Re: Instructional Designers Network by scurrie on Monday 03 December 2007 08:18:00:
To activate smart copy open up a discussion thread (i.e. not in reply mode) then hit shift-ctrl-s

Sylvia
This is very weird. As I said, I'm using Flock - which is Firefox based. When I wrote the previous message, I quoted you and in this reply window it said "From Re: blah blah blah and then the message.

I've just noticed now that the message I wrote has the quote from you (the message that I sent as 12.28 & starts out Thanks, Deirdre - which is what you'd already say). Anyway, it's got the quote, but not the fact that you said it.
I hit "reply" to say that I thought I'd seen the information before I wrote it.
When I'd hit reply & got to see my message, there was the "From blah, blah".

I went back to the discussion view, and the from blah blah had gone.

I'm now replying to this one. Right at the top, it's saying "From...". I've a sneaking suspicion that when I post it, suddenly the "from" will disappear.

Weird.

P.S. It has.

(Edited by Sylvia Currie - original submission Monday, 3 December 2007, 09:57 AM)

p.s. Emma, thanks so much for finding this little weird thing! I've reported it to the SFU tech folks and the solution will probably be quite clear to them. Cheers! Sylvia

Re: Instructional Designers Network

by Emma Duke-Williams - Monday, 3 December 2007, 12:31 AM

Images:

Just testing ... that's the usage data for Orkut - yet another SNS. I've got it in Flickr, and I'm using Flock as my browser, so I just had to drag it in here & it automatically embeds a thumbnail, which is a link to a fuller sized image.
(Getting images into Flickr with Flock's pretty easy too, it's just a case of browsing, selecting [multiple] and then uploading)

Emma