I have a nagging feeling that we're too focused on the technology side... on finding one or more tools that will bring it all together.
It seems to me that we need to develop a language for describing and supporting all the communities in such a system with policies, attention, and even support for community leaders / facilitators.
Just a gut feeling.
John Smith
Discussions started by John Smith
Sounds heavy, eh? Here they are in chronological order:
NancyWhite: @4KM yes there a hashtag for the BC online community enthusiasts #oce2009
NancyWhite: Good coffee and chocolate croissants at #OCE2009
smithjd: oops! #oce2009 online community enthusiasts getting organized - people showing up from all over for http://tinyurl.com/ckam34 (expand)
sleslie: at Online Community Enthusiasts day with @currie @draggin and @nancywhite fun times! #oce2009
draggin: im gonna take pics! #oce2009
eLearningCo: NancyWhite: Good coffee and chocolate croissants at #OCE2009 http://tinyurl.com/cnwxy3 (expand)
smithjd: #oce2009 where are the real technology issues in all these community issues?
smithjd: #oce2009 how design for the me, the we, and the network levels? At the same time? How understand all these levels?
smithjd: #oce2009 what happens inside all those community boxes? how represent it? how much visibility is appropriate?
smithjd: #oce2009 Why did the project succeed? Why did the other fail? Can I ever figure it out?
smithjd: #oce2009 Online communities, online community projects swamped by external f2f events: good or bad? When does online lead? when follow?
smithjd: #oce2009 everbody lives in their own feed reader: doesn't seem like a home. "old tech model" of a common place is being bypassed.
suewolff: @smithjd @nancywhite @currie #oce2009 Just as well I've been offline enough to miss this event, but envious and wishing I was with you!
smithjd: @suewolff #oce2009 you would add so much to this conversation! I can imagine follow-up projects from today that would be online & global
smithjd: #oce2009 Who's not here? How can we bring their voices into the conversation? How do we connect with them outside of this f2f event?
smithjd: #oce2009 what's the best combination of tools / platform for a community hatching? Are there different hatcheries for different groups?
draggin: The right tool for the job, can often be right under your nose.... there is usually some drawing involved. #oce2009
sleslie: #oce2009 I'm overwhelmed. Talking about community is not just an intellectual exercise, need time and space to absorb it, feel it, live it
smithjd: #oce2009 open space sessions. attending a session on "communities and graduate education reform". The ironies ae not lost on me.
draggin: who said that smart thing that time... something about the teacher as a DJ? Genius! #oce2009
smithjd: #oce2009 open space notes here: http://tinyurl.com/cfj28f (expand)
Smart_People: RT @smithjd #oce2009 open space notes here: http://tinyurl.com/cfj28f (expand) [we're in open space with themes such as online CoP space design]
4KM: #oce2009 open space conversation: "create a culture of experimentation"
4KM: If you have to be indoors, this is how to do it. Massive windows in Vancouver heritage bldg; blue sky; lots of colourful graphics #oce2009
smithjd: #oce2009 follow up: how make templates (that can be propagated) of organized pulls of information (like an enhanced OPML file)
4KM: #oce2009 smithjd currently reporting out on our open space session about education reform: inspiration & depression
4KM: #oce2009 Some of the university success stories coming from Pepperdine, Fielding, Germany...no Canadian exs in this conversation
4KM: I mentioned Pete Kilner's C4P model to support CoPs (connection, conversation, content and context around purpose) #KM #oce2009 1/2
smithjd: #oce2009 follow-up check out indicators of community tag started by @NancyWhite http://tinyurl.com/cwahwx (expand)
4KM: Used model in study of netwk of communities; not surprised his learning was solid! See IGI book in pubn's www.4KM.net #KM #oce2009
4KM: Exploring possibility of "field trip" series to online communities: SCOPE & CPsquare might organize collaboratively #oce2009
sleslie: me at the end of the Community Enthusiasts day #OCE2009 http://pic.im/2uf
smithjd: #oce2009: exciting next steps / cherish the people / nee quiet time/ foundations transitions refelction / stretcher follows emergent
smithjd: #oce2009 happy insipred tickled / find the rythm / ready for digging / surprising diversity of voices/ relationships images notonline
smithjd: #oce2009 netowkr community synergy/ what a mix!!!
4KM: RT @smithjd #oce2009: everyone shared 3-word departure messages such as exciting next steps /cherish the people /structure follows emergence
ekreeger: RT @smithjd:#oce2009 everbody lives in their own feed reader: doesn't seem like a home. "old tech model of a common place being bypassed.
ekreeger: @smithjd:#oce2009 Can you say more about the communities and graduate education reform session?
Currie: Searched Twitter for #oce2009: http://tinyurl.com/cos4ns (expand)
4KM: Listing people we wanted to teleport to #oce2009. @Downes @gsiemens @suethomas exs on my list. Let us know if you wish you'd been there
Smart_People: RT @4KM Listing ppl we wanted to teleport to #oce2009. @Downes @gsiemens @suethomas exs on my list. Let us know if U wish you'd been there
suethomas: @Smart_People is this what you mean http://www.ocediscovery.com/ #oce2009? looks an interesting place to discuss transliteracy
sleslie: @NancyWhite I agree re: me/we - there is a middle way (as well one between global/local). Someday I may figure it out. Someday. #oce2009
ekreeger: @4KM It sounds like #oce2009 was great! Loved the tweets & wanted more of the conversation, too.
NancyWhite: @4KM yes there a hashtag for the BC online community enthusiasts #oce2009
NancyWhite: Good coffee and chocolate croissants at #OCE2009
smithjd: oops! #oce2009 online community enthusiasts getting organized - people showing up from all over for http://tinyurl.com/ckam34 (expand)
sleslie: at Online Community Enthusiasts day with @currie @draggin and @nancywhite fun times! #oce2009
draggin: im gonna take pics! #oce2009
eLearningCo: NancyWhite: Good coffee and chocolate croissants at #OCE2009 http://tinyurl.com/cnwxy3 (expand)
smithjd: #oce2009 where are the real technology issues in all these community issues?
smithjd: #oce2009 how design for the me, the we, and the network levels? At the same time? How understand all these levels?
smithjd: #oce2009 what happens inside all those community boxes? how represent it? how much visibility is appropriate?
smithjd: #oce2009 Why did the project succeed? Why did the other fail? Can I ever figure it out?
smithjd: #oce2009 Online communities, online community projects swamped by external f2f events: good or bad? When does online lead? when follow?
smithjd: #oce2009 everbody lives in their own feed reader: doesn't seem like a home. "old tech model" of a common place is being bypassed.
suewolff: @smithjd @nancywhite @currie #oce2009 Just as well I've been offline enough to miss this event, but envious and wishing I was with you!
smithjd: @suewolff #oce2009 you would add so much to this conversation! I can imagine follow-up projects from today that would be online & global
smithjd: #oce2009 Who's not here? How can we bring their voices into the conversation? How do we connect with them outside of this f2f event?
smithjd: #oce2009 what's the best combination of tools / platform for a community hatching? Are there different hatcheries for different groups?
draggin: The right tool for the job, can often be right under your nose.... there is usually some drawing involved. #oce2009
sleslie: #oce2009 I'm overwhelmed. Talking about community is not just an intellectual exercise, need time and space to absorb it, feel it, live it
smithjd: #oce2009 open space sessions. attending a session on "communities and graduate education reform". The ironies ae not lost on me.
draggin: who said that smart thing that time... something about the teacher as a DJ? Genius! #oce2009
smithjd: #oce2009 open space notes here: http://tinyurl.com/cfj28f (expand)
Smart_People: RT @smithjd #oce2009 open space notes here: http://tinyurl.com/cfj28f (expand) [we're in open space with themes such as online CoP space design]
4KM: #oce2009 open space conversation: "create a culture of experimentation"
4KM: If you have to be indoors, this is how to do it. Massive windows in Vancouver heritage bldg; blue sky; lots of colourful graphics #oce2009
smithjd: #oce2009 follow up: how make templates (that can be propagated) of organized pulls of information (like an enhanced OPML file)
4KM: #oce2009 smithjd currently reporting out on our open space session about education reform: inspiration & depression
4KM: #oce2009 Some of the university success stories coming from Pepperdine, Fielding, Germany...no Canadian exs in this conversation
4KM: I mentioned Pete Kilner's C4P model to support CoPs (connection, conversation, content and context around purpose) #KM #oce2009 1/2
smithjd: #oce2009 follow-up check out indicators of community tag started by @NancyWhite http://tinyurl.com/cwahwx (expand)
4KM: Used model in study of netwk of communities; not surprised his learning was solid! See IGI book in pubn's www.4KM.net #KM #oce2009
4KM: Exploring possibility of "field trip" series to online communities: SCOPE & CPsquare might organize collaboratively #oce2009
sleslie: me at the end of the Community Enthusiasts day #OCE2009 http://pic.im/2uf
smithjd: #oce2009: exciting next steps / cherish the people / nee quiet time/ foundations transitions refelction / stretcher follows emergent
smithjd: #oce2009 happy insipred tickled / find the rythm / ready for digging / surprising diversity of voices/ relationships images notonline
smithjd: #oce2009 netowkr community synergy/ what a mix!!!
4KM: RT @smithjd #oce2009: everyone shared 3-word departure messages such as exciting next steps /cherish the people /structure follows emergence
ekreeger: RT @smithjd:#oce2009 everbody lives in their own feed reader: doesn't seem like a home. "old tech model of a common place being bypassed.
ekreeger: @smithjd:#oce2009 Can you say more about the communities and graduate education reform session?
Currie: Searched Twitter for #oce2009: http://tinyurl.com/cos4ns (expand)
4KM: Listing people we wanted to teleport to #oce2009. @Downes @gsiemens @suethomas exs on my list. Let us know if you wish you'd been there
Smart_People: RT @4KM Listing ppl we wanted to teleport to #oce2009. @Downes @gsiemens @suethomas exs on my list. Let us know if U wish you'd been there
suethomas: @Smart_People is this what you mean http://www.ocediscovery.com/ #oce2009? looks an interesting place to discuss transliteracy
sleslie: @NancyWhite I agree re: me/we - there is a middle way (as well one between global/local). Someday I may figure it out. Someday. #oce2009
ekreeger: @4KM It sounds like #oce2009 was great! Loved the tweets & wanted more of the conversation, too.
What would make a big conference like the AACE E-Learn conference more friendly, fund, productive for community-oriented people like us? Are there ways that a conference like that could model what we think is good practice for communities of pracatice?
We intended to brainstorm ideas during the Rendezvous, but got too involved in discussing the cases that were presented, so we deferred it to here. Please post one idea per post, so others can reply and expand upon what you suggest.
We intended to brainstorm ideas during the Rendezvous, but got too involved in discussing the cases that were presented, so we deferred it to here. Please post one idea per post, so others can reply and expand upon what you suggest.