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Emma, I've been following these discussions in the background and I felt your point hit the nail on the head. It's not really about one tool over another is it? It's about what we really mean about the term collaboration exactly as you say. Excellent point!

Can I offer a couple of examples that might serve to illustrate? One online and the other on campus.

I worked as an online tutor team half in the UK and half in China. We tutored on an online course together as a highly distributed tutoring team. We each had a group to care for and to try and maintain some sort of cohesion as we went through a very strange but exciting experience, I started a blog in the tutor-space. I kept the blog throughout and the other tutors annotated it according to aspects they agreed or disagreed with. So we worked inside this one diary as a way of checking our understanding over time. That for me was collaboration (apart from designing the course together as well).

Currently I'm using voting technology on campus to get students working as a group reflecting together. It's a process of cooperative inquiry using a snowball/pyramid discussion technique to generate a whole-class view before voting. That always feels like very close collaboration (see for more on this).

So for me its not tools because you can do something collaborative with almost anything. For me it's about being genuinely collaborative. Thanks for the prompt to participate Emma. I'm always enjoying these discussions.

Nicholas Bowskill
Faculty of Education
University of Glasgow
I remember a previous SCoPE session where Gilly Salmon talked about her 5 Stages of Collaboration. Unfortunately I'm not at work to find the URL but managed to find this adaption. I liked it because it described the everyone does their own thing as a step towards collaboration.
I'm not quite sure what you mean ... do you mean a way of linking together all the SCOPE threads ... so that one person can see them all?

In theory, yes, though can we remove them from the directory - the two that Sylvia and I created for planning are a bit chaotic, and I'd rather not have them too visible; not because we said anything that we wouldn't want you all to ready, but, some have pointed out, this
big wave( Michael Dawes - Flickr)
is very daunting if you'd rather have this
small wave. (Anthony Goto - Flickr)

I think that some of the more crowded waves can be scary!

Great to see you here, Sandy! This wave business is new to us all, so we'll have to figure it out together. smile

The membership in the Google Group might seem like a confusing step on the way to wave, but it seems to be the easiest way to add everyone into waves as they are created for this seminar. Although, I just discovered today that you can add this account to a wave to make it public:
I tried it with the "Useful URLs" wave to see how it works.

Of course the problem with all this explanation is that it doesn't make sense until you have access to Google Wave! If haven't received an invitation be sure to add your name to the list:
Welcome to our Tools for Collaborating Online seminar!

About our facilitator
Emma Duke-Williams is a Lecturer and Faculty eLearning Co-ordinator for the Faculty of Technology at the University of Portsmouth, UK. She is also a long time SCoPE member and active contributor to our seminars.

About the seminar
As you've already gathered, during this seminar we plan to really use the tools we talk about! As Emma mentioned, Google Wave will be one focus. This may be a challenge because:
1) wave is still in the early stages of development
2) it's not currently available without personal invitations

Emma and I each have quite a few invitations to give out, and I'm sure others who participate will also have invitations to spare. I think we've worked out a process that will get everyone into the waves we set up for this seminar. Check this resource for details on how to participate:
Participating in the Tools for Collaborating Online seminar
If you have questions about the logistics, please ask!

Participating in SCoPE seminars
SCoPE seminars are free and open to the public, and registration is not required. You are welcome to come and go according to your schedule and interests. To contribute to this forum discussion and to customize your visits you will need to create an account on the SCoPE site -- a quick process. Are you new to SCoPE or wondering how to manage your participation? Check this resource.

If you have any questions about participating in SCoPE don't hesitate to ask here in the forum, or get in touch with me directly:

Sylvia Currie, SCoPE Coordinator
scurrie@bccampus, skype:webbedfeat, 250-318-2907
Angelo, nice to see you here. It will be fun. It might also be a little chaotic! tongueout

I see that you have joined the SCoPE Google Group. That's the first step in the process. Now technically this should give you access to the waves we set up for this seminar. I'm assuming from your comment about searching that you have access to Wave. If not, add your name to this list for an invitation.

From the Wave search field paste this and the waves should show up in your list:

I hope this works! I'll be looking for you, Angelo. Be sure to report back if things don't work as I described.