Here is the text chat transcript from today's Elluminate session with Helen Walmsley
Sylvia Currie: Nice to see BC folks here! Welcome Gary and Gerry
jennymackness: Hi Karen!!
Karen Guldberg: Hi jenny!
Sylvia Currie: Oh, we could have scheduled it for earlier in the day :-D
jennymackness: I wish I was an amateur then Helen!
Sylvia Currie: I found out about the Best Practice community through participation in CPSquare.org
John Smith: Helen, during that first Foudnations workshop, did we have a visit to your community?
Sylvia Currie: Interesting dilemma -- people see the resources. Need to see people
Gerry: Yeah for RSS
Sylvia Currie: @John I think I first saw the community during the Long Live the Platform conference
jennymackness: So is there now a need for the Moodle site?
John Smith: @Sylvia: and that would have been the January after Helen was in the Foundations wrokshp.
Sylvia Currie: Moodle for scheduled discussions / Ning for ongoing?
jennymackness: How many members in moodle?
John Smith: I see Jenny and Lynn Tveskov!
jennymackness: Oh yes!
Sylvia Currie: Yes! I was thinking hey Helen stole my friends! lol
Sylvia Currie: I like the approach of standing back to see how each space is used
Gerry: People are starting to do this type of "Ning" thing with WordPress and BuddyPress.
John Smith: Hey, there's LaDonna!
Sylvia Currie: As it turns out that's the only good feature in FB groups (events)
jennymackness: Do these multiple platforms fragement a community?
Sylvia Currie:
Gerry: The classroom 2.0 ning has events in it including who is attending and the ability to invite. I don't use FB, so maybe it does more.
jennymackness: Thanks Helen
Sylvia Currie: Seems nature of the community -- more open to exploration / using different venues
Gerry: How big is the overlap of participants between the 3 communities?
Gerry: I would thing so
Gerry: think
Sylvia Currie: I think I remember in one conversation that there were some people in NING who are not in Moodle
Gerry: Looks like the Moodle site is kind of the "mother ship"
jennymackness: Is it possible to build resources in the same way in Ning?
Helen Walmsley: Jenny - the resources are on our Moodle server - Ning resources would be on Ning's (and not secure) So we've not done that yet
Gerry: Many communities are like that now and are thriving - connected by PLE's for individuals
Karen Guldberg: How much input do you feel 'the leader' needed to put in to keep the community going, Helen?
Helen Walmsley: The faciliatator puts in a lot of effort!
John Smith: go ahead, Helen.
Helen Walmsley: Christa has beenorganising events and encouraging discussions on a regualr basis
debra Beck: In a voluntary process like this, what factors do you think best facilitate ongoing participation?
Christine Horgan: Helen, given that the facilitator puts in a great deal of work to organize and keep a community current, if one were looking at a small, internal community (defined membership), which would be the best route to take: Ning, Facebook, Moodle? (Chris Horgan)
Sylvia Currie: So much behind the scenes work. We need to do a better job of documenting that!
Gerry: That is true Sylvia
Gerry: I mean documenting
Sylvia Currie: Plus on a server in the United States, which gets complicated for Canadians
Christine Horgan: Sylvia, are you talking about the current concerns about Canadian privacy issues? Chris
Sylvia Currie: @Christine Yes, maybe more of a concern for students but still a fuzzy area
Gerry: Was there any difference in terms of how participants were able to shape the communities when comparing what happens in Moodle/Ning/FB?
Gerry: Point in case is the community the grew around George Siemen's and Stephen Downes' Connectivism course last fall.
Gerry: I was more thinking if one community was more "authentic" and user built as opposed to top down.
Sylvia Currie: And maybe Gerry is also asking does one platform lend itself to being a community effort to shape the community itself
Gerry: sorry no mic
Gerry: but the course - 30 registrants but 2500 participants
jennymackness: @Gerry - was the connectivism course a community or a network?
Gerry: A network that grew out of a community ??? LOL
John Smith: yes
Sylvia Currie: Yes, you sound good
Sylvia Currie: I was just thinking that too!
Gerry: And it was a course, not a community. It would be nice to have this type of viral participation in communities - rarely happens.
Gerry: Maybe something to learn from the "open" approach
Sylvia Currie: And perhaps coming from outside the university was an advantage?
Karen Guldberg: Ahh...it is becoming clearer that you did very much behind the scenes, Helen and that it didn't just happen!
Gerry: And which one supports "lurkers" the best. There are a lot of "lurkers" like me who might eventually participate
Gary Hunt: Was a motivation for faculty based on wanting to develop blended course models or distance courses with no face-to-face component?
jennymackness: @Gerry - do you think people want a community more than a network?
John Smith: a new community on ELGG -- for own groups.
Christine Horgan: Helen, you just mentioned an easily managed platform for small communities. I couldn't catch the name of it. Could you please repeat the name and talk about the pros/cons. Thanks, Chris Horgan
Sylvia Currie: Interesting...expanding the community network to ELGG
Sylvia Currie: http://scope.bccampus.ca/mod/forum/view.php?id=2311
Gerry: I think people are finding "networks" more valualbe these days - that's my impression.
Gerry: Communities need to facilitate feeding into people's networks
John Smith: Sylvia: expanding the ways that people can connect. Do we reach a saturation point, where a community feeling is lost?
jennymackness: I think that even within networks, groups exist
Gerry: Communities of practice vs Networks of Practice
Gerry: Helen's work really has develpoed into a network
Sylvia Currie: Please do participate in the asynch discussion!
Christine Horgan: Many thanks, Helen, for taking time out of your day (and the end of your day). Cheers, Chris
jennymackness: Thank you Helen
Helen Walmsley: thanks
Karen Guldberg: This was really interesting
Sylvia Currie: http://scope.bccampus.ca/mod/forum/view.php?id=2311
Gerry: Thanks Helen
Gerry: Going to the Yukon tomorrow or Wednesday, but I will revisit
John Smith: bye!
Helen Walmsley: Thansk Sylvia!
Tracy R (B.C.): thanks!
Karen Guldberg: bye!
Gerry: Bye
(Edited by John Smith - original submission Monday, 20 July 2009, 12:27 PM)