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Here is the link to the recording from Tuesday Dec. 4th lunch and learn webinar
(Edited by Sylvia Currie - original submission Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 10:22 AM Removed some <p> tags)
The text transcripts for this webinar are available in full, (the summary wiki is in progress) but I thought it would be useful to pull out the questions we posed. I'll do the same for the Dec 11 webinar.
- But what do these badges lead to?
- Who will recognise these badges?
- Do badges need to lead to something, or can they identify a person's passion?
- Does anyone else do a 'backpack' idea - ie apart form 'mozilla' ?
- But if badges don't lead to anything, why do I need them?
- Does this promote extrinsic motivation rather than intrinsic motivation for learning?
- An authentic representation of learning and abilities?
- Does Khan work with LInkedIn?
- But don't you also want to be able to display badges you earn on your own site?
- Linked In displays credit for skills right now, based on peer feedback...I haven't seen any badges? Anyone else?
- Still thinking about Jenny's question about badges and extrinsic motivation versus intrinsic motivation for learning. Both?
- The extrinsic component is extremely powerful…but should we be promoting that? …why not?
- Hoop jumping can help get them into deeper learning, no? as opposed to only 10% of completing a MOOC.
- I have connected and learned in different ways and have had some deep learning happen "outside" of set activities. …How do you get badges for that? Competency based?
- Would there be a way of using badges as recognition of prior learning without having to redo the work?
- If you could document your learning and demonstrate emergent learning towards a badge...that might work?
- …Maybe use badge to link to eportfolio if you want to share with others?
- But what about students who want to have employers recognize their learning?
Thanks for this summary set of questions... and to think they all came from one 50 minute lunch-n-learn.
I look forward to participating in there discussion...
Thanks for pulling all these questions together. Let me provide my responses to them...remember this is my view of things formed via all the reading I do in this area combined with my view of meta-cognition and self directed learning.
But what do these badges lead to?
Badges could lead to anything where learning occured, skills or knowledge were acquired. I had a discussion with some people a while back and we discussed whether a badge should stand on its own (pedagogically speaking, it represents the complete learning of something) or can badges only exist within a system of badges. I am of the mind a badge can only exist within a system. What the system (curriculum?) looks like is either; up to the learner(s) themselves or the organization / institution creating the badge. When the learner creates the system they really are creating their own personal curriculum and they could cobble together a whole lot of badges from different sources and create a representation of their knowledge/learning.
Who will recognise these badges?
I believe the social network, employers, friends, CoP, etc. will increasingly recognize badges.
Do badges need to lead to something, or can they identify a person's passion?
Both... I see this as the wonderful thing about badges. They can be implemented by anyone for any reason. I particularly like how they could be used outside of traditional learning.
Does anyone else do a 'backpack' idea - ie apart form 'mozilla' ?
Every badge issuer has a place they store the badges they have issued (or more accurately a record of). I do not know of any organization creating a backpack, or equivalent, where badge earners can store badges from multiple different sources.
But if badges don't lead to anything, why do I need them?
I believe badges are more representative of things, rather than leading to anything. Well they could lead to someting... I see it as more of a journey than a destination kinda thing.
Does this promote extrinsic motivation rather than intrinsic motivation for learning?
I think it provides a vehicle to represent the learning that someone is intrinsically motivated to complete. But this leads more into my personal learning, personal curriculum mapping, etc... bent.
Does Khan work with LinkedIn?
I don't believe Khan badges can be embedded in LinkedIn.
But don't you also want to be able to display badges you earn on your own site?
LinkedIn displays credit for skills right now, based on peer feedback...I haven't seen any badges? Anyone else?
Given we can nominate each other for the badges within this seminar series... this could be peer feedback. The badges within stackexchange and OERUniversity are based on contribution and peer evaluation. I believe this is one of the strengths of open badges... peer based or working within a CoP.
Still thinking about Jenny's question about badges and extrinsic motivation versus intrinsic motivation for learning. Both?
I think the flexibility of badges allows for both.
Hoop jumping can help get them into deeper learning, no? as opposed to only 10% of completing a MOOC.
Hoop jumping can be good, particularly if you design and develop your own hoop. Badges could be used within MOOCs... MOOCs have bigger pedagogical fish to fry ;).
I have connected and learned in different ways and have had some deep learning happen "outside" of set activities. …How do you get badges for that? Competency based?
Develop your own badge, see where it takes you. The badge image design will prompt further reflection. Then when you have to define the criteria and evidence. How do you then define competency? How would it be recognized for awarding of the badge. All good!
Would there be a way of using badges as recognition of prior learning without having to redo the work?
I always thought if you could resurrect the evidence of prior learning... why not be awarded the badge.
…Maybe use badge to link to eportfolio if you want to share with others?
Absolutely! I think badges and ePortfolios could be closely tied.
But what about students who want to have employers recognize their learning?
There are projects within the DML competition exploring this...
I find some of these summary thoughts quite helpful to organize my own thinking about badges, Peter. Thanks for organizing and summarizing it here at the close of our time together. While I still cannot claim to be an advocate of badges, I think one of the reasons is because I keep thinking about them in context for me, something I am not interested in whatsoever partly due to lack of oversight. However, I do believe I am a bit more informed regarding the potential of using badges with other audiences and users. Just because badges may not work for me does not mean I cannot consider using them with othes who ma value or otherwise need them.
In this way, it has been a very helpful couple of weeks on this. Thanks.