How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

Re: How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

by Apostolos Koutropoulos -
Number of replies: 6
Quite a huge topic to chew on!
I've been working in an academic Library for the past 5 years and the Semantic Web has been something that my fellow techie librarians have been mentioning. Honestly, nothing much has panned out on that front. I count myself as a sceptic when it comes to the SW but I am open to the idea and the conversation.

Linked Data is quite interesting to me. The library is full of linked data. If you think of LCSH (library of congress subject headings), book arrangements, book co-locations and other types of "old school" tagging, it's not hard to see that some linked data already exists. We could go much further, but at least there is some existing system in place. The main hurdle that I see with Linked Data in education can be seen now: how do you get a new crop of students to realize that the data that the OPAC (library catalog) provides you is in its own way linked, even though there aren't always hotspots that you can always click on to get related info.

Part of it, I think, is a systems design and UI design issue (making our systems more accessible), and part of it is training students to be information hounds so that they don't just take the first result, but they are encouraged to traverse the links to find something that is more useful to them.
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Re: How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

by Laurence Cuffe -
I think its a wonderful project, but perhaps a little too ambitious, and I'll tell you why. Humans love to re-purpose things in unexpected ways, and I cant see a set of tags which would be broad enough to encompass all possible uses, yet retain enough specificity to be useful. As an example:
Once upon a time there was an astronomer who was looking at galaxies, and after two years of looking at galaxies everyday they asked for help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Zoo
and currently
http://www.zooniverse.org/projects
Whats interesting in all of this is that:
1) These are collections of big data which still need many thousands of people to generate knowledge, and
2) A specific tool for a specific task, (deciding whether galaxies were spirals or not) is now looking for space junk on the moon, examining solar storms, and reading old ships logs to find out about global warming.
This is a very human thing to do, other examples, a website set up for selling Pez dispensers turned into Ebay, and a piece of software set up to help an academic keep track of references, turned into Google.
This is human.
At our best we look above and beyond.
The second problem is the one alluded to in the old joke about the British and the Americans being two nations divided by a common language.
As a chemist I once studied a set of small molecules each containing 4 atoms.
I was talking to another computational chemist and they recommended a particular piece of software as being good for small molecules.
I tried it, and it failed.
When I met them again, I asked about it. It turned out that they were doing computational biochemistry, and small for them was around 10,000 or so atoms big.
Even in very closely related fields terms can have very different meanings.
My 2c.
Laurence Cuffe



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Re: How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

by Dianne Rees -
I think an interesting view of differences in perceptions when it comes to tagging can come from a "game" like Google Image labeler where people are paired up with partners and asked to tag (separately) the same image and then share results. You receive points when your tags match. http://images.google.com/imagelabeler/

It would be interesting to see whether winning the game would cause you to start overgeneralizing or to get more specific (arguably, a combination of both types of tags are needed).

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Re: How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

by Inge Ignatia de Waard -
It is indeed true that not everybody finds relevant information in the same way. Indeed there are many students that still miss the skill to come up with relevant tags, screen options that pop-up. The difficulty might be related to understanding what makes meaning or what will deliver personal, relevant results.

Maybe the way students use tags to describe learning objects, and to search through them, can give an idea on how the first steps the semantic web are taken? At first tags and things do not really match sensitive differences in meaning, but as time goes by and linguistic semantics are fine-tuned, the tags linked to object become more precise.

I would think that this precise tagging and finding the most relevant key words related to a certain subject, is linked to the novice or expert state that a person is in. The more expertise, the easier it is to provide specific and accurate key words or phrases, the more one is a novice, the more those choices might be colored by popular nouns or hyped words.

@Laurence: I also really like your idea that human beings have the tendency to go above and beyond. If this urge to move beyond could be put into an algorithm, learning analytics would provide us with cognitive or other laws that we would not even have imagined (or proven).
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Re: How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

by Apostolos Koutropoulos -
"I would think that this precise tagging and finding the most relevant key words related to a certain subject, is linked to the novice or expert state that a person is in. The more expertise, the easier it is to provide specific and accurate key words or phrases, the more one is a novice, the more those choices might be colored by popular nouns or hyped words. " - IIdW

I agree with you 100% and, anecdotally of course, I've seen this in my own personal information organizing behavior. Back in the early days of Del.icio.us use, I didn't really pick tags well, as a result some of my bookmarks were not so easy to find later on. As I used the system more, I actually ended up coming up with terms that were general enough to point a category out, but specific enough so that not everything was "web2.0" (Now if only I had the time to put in an abstract/description for each URL :-) )
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Re: How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

by Inge Ignatia de Waard -
oh, I so follow you on the 'adding an abstract/description' into delicious :-D
And I must confess, it also feels like an effort to take out those tags that I only used once (similar in my blog, I should clean house, but I keep putting it forward to ... later). I wonder if there would be people willing to clean up the messes that are made, or maybe a cleaning algorithm?
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Re: How will (could) linked data and the semantic web impact learning?

by Apostolos Koutropoulos -
A cleaning algorithm would be useful...but...I wouldn't trust it :-)

a year or so ago I undertook a project to clean up my music, re-rip it into iTunes, scan cover art and have appropriate meta-data. I was almost 90% when my hard drive died. Haven't gone back to it yet :-)

I think it would be worthwhile for me to go back through my delicious bookmarks and retag and add abstracts. I "only" have about 2000 bookmarks. I think that what I will find is that about 500 of those links are dead, which makes it a good excuse to clean things up ;-)

As far as going back to old blog posts. I have considered it, but with about 3000 posts (across 3 blogs), that could be an issue. For blogs, I think it doesn't matter as much (the retagging) since one could do a forensic analysis on our blogs and could tell things about the evolution of our thinking. I write blog posts to outwardly communicate with others. Bookmarks on the other hand, I keep because I find them useful for my own personal use, the outward sharing is just a nice side-effect :-)