Kyra: Whose sense of common sense should we apply?
Emma B: Does anyone have any ideas of different kind of common sense?
Gina: I think it needs to start with the context. WHAT is academic honesty (in North American, in institutional, in discipline-specific, in course context)? & WHY does it matter?
Asif: here's my question -- what if a student reads theorists and in the process comes to integrate the theories as their own -- where does citation stop?
Kyra: When and how are the "rules" taught?
Asif: is there a contradiction between open learning and plagiarism?
Asif: if we ask students to visit several sources to get a sense of some idea -- do we really expect them to cite all those when reflecting on their learning?
Alexandra: Speaking of common sense, is the academic honesty "common" to all the instructors?
Asif: 'flow' for one instructor could mean plagiarism for another, no?
Sue Wolff: What are the academic honesty rules for our use of this video in our own faculty development modules?
Gina: I think our current emphasis on correct citation etc. etc. is not sustainable in the new world of mashup
Wendy Burton: So there are cultures you know of where plagiarism is accepted?
Tony Carr: I see a rush towards intensification of the surveillance + policing model eg in the use of automated plagiarism detection eg Turnitin
Emma: Do any of you have conversations around the plagiarism paradigm conversation on your campus? Is there a move to shift at all?
Emma: ...the idea of ownership is an interesting one. From our perspective, we own ideas and want credit, but from other perspectives, to say the words exactly are all one needs because the speaker is known. At what point do we allow students to use their 'way' of knowing?
Wendy Burton: If a student is copying an essay entirely from an essay bank - and they do so deliberately - I'm unlikely to accept that is a "way of knowing" or a cultural norm. Whose culture?
Alexandra: Isn't there a fine line between collaboration and copying your group member's idea and work and make it one's own?
Emma: …so to go back to the other question, if we have students from diverse cultures in the class, how and by whom should they be taught about academic integrity?
Kyra: Is the competitive aspect culturally influenced?
Melanie Wilke: and where does the time to teach this get carved out of?
Asif: what if you're teaching out of canada and into china -- which country's norms would apply?
Alexandra: Isn't it wrong to assume that knowledge belongs to one person from the start?
Kyra: Is this question of post colonialism? Some would argue that the internationalization of higher education has tinges of that... whose standards set the standards?
Sue Wolff: It's a great Big Idea or Essential question: What are Standards?
Who owns the standards? Where did they come from? Who cares?
Wendy Burton: Okay. I've taught in Finland, England, Scotland, China, Japan, Bangladesh, India, S Sudan, and Nairobi. Not to mention in far flung and remote reserves. I have NEVER encountered a student who claimed stealing someone else's words (from anywhere) and not acknowledging that was acceptable. Where are these cultures where this is acceptable?
Peter Fenrich: One part of education is to be able to think. Generating your own thoughts is important. How would we know if a person could think if they could copy whatever they wanted and not give credit?