Joined on May 26, 2008 at 9:03 AM
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Jo Ann Hammond-Meiers: Jo Ann: Terry-- I have posted to you and Susan that the graph by Susan Lister does not seem to be available -- as before. I hope Susan will repost it. Jo Ann
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glen: link to Mind ma0 is dead
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Jo Ann Hammond-Meiers: Yes Jo Ann
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Moderator (Terry Anderson): [new page]
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Stephen Downes: not yet
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Sue L.: not sure why it's not working....
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Sue L.: try this one.. http://tinyurl.com/6f2k2b
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glen: needs log in and pass
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Sue L.: password sof2008
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Sue L.: shouldn't be..
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Sue L.: some form of 'publish' should help to complete one iteration and perhaps jumpstart another
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Stephen Downes: crap... 'Cannot connetc to microphone"
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Jo Ann Hammond-Meiers: Jo Ann: Hi Stephen, can't hear you
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Stephen Downes: 1. Concern that main point is lobbying for money (vs network, infrastructrure)
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Stephen Downes: a. concern about built-in boas tpoward institutions
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Stephen Downes: b. concern about creationing 'one more group' over & abopve CNIE, CELEA, CATA, CSTD
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Stephen Downes: 2. Would prefer focus on communication, netwirking, infrastructure
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Stephen Downes: 2a. Who are we? is there even an OPML listing canadxian e-learning people & their sites?
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Stephen Downes: 2b. How do we talk? Why can we talk directly to each other? How can we make this happen?
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Stephen Downes: 3. Focus should be, not on what we can get, but rather, on what service we can provide
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Stephen Downes: 3b. What is each person, group, willing to do to creatge the network?
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Jo Ann Hammond-Meiers: Jo Ann: How can we go beyond the conference to effectively have a voice for e-learning initiaitves without having to be dependent on the established orcanlizations. Perhaps we can inform and catalyze others. I liked Tom's work in terms of what we can do with insitutions too.
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Stephen Downes: 4. Community is not a collective... mistake to thing we should all 'unite' to create 'one tghing'
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Stephen Downes: 4a. focus should be on ways to enable diversity, authonomy
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Moderator (Terry Anderson): and emergence
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Stephen Downes: 4b. mechanism to connect people within that diversity
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Stephen Downes: (hate not having functional mic)
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rcjones: @ Stephen - So, what's the tool?
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Selina: wouldnt a series of round tables with non-institusional groups invited to participate work
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Terumi: Thank you for a nice time, Paul and Terry. I am going to go back to bed to sleep. I'll be sure to check the SCoPE site for the rest.
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Stephen Downes: @rjjones - they can use bogs,. etc... or they are free to use my tool I just released as open source
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Stephen Downes: grsshopper.downes.ca
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rcjones: Aggregation of rss an excellent route.
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Sue L.: I will post about the mindmap access in the forum - as well as an image of it thus far for those who can't gain access. please let me know if you want an email sent to become a collaborator and not just a viewer.
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Stephen Downes: @rcjones - agreed
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Stephen Downes: Big prob is cdn researchers & poractitioners etc don't talk to each opther very much - would like to see committment to actually commun ity and not huddle in rooms competing for SSHRC grants
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Stephen Downes: correction... 'to actually communicate'
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rcjones: nail on head
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Jo Ann Hammond-Meiers: Jo Ann: continue the talks
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Selina: have a good week all
Left on May 26, 2008 at 9:25 AM